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Question: Do We Need ALL Of The Federal Agencies Listed Below?

The Bill Of Rights and the United States Constitution (and its Amendments) provide a clear framework for this great nation which empowers THE PEOPLE (‘We’ the people) and is clearly purposed to LIMIT government. It is, after all, a set of documents written by those who had just overthrown tyranny – having paid for it with much blood on the battlefield. Our forefathers wanted nothing more than to LIMIT government and EMPOWER individuals so as to prevent what they had just fought for from ever happening again. That, of course, would only succeed if ‘THE PEOPLE’ remained diligent.

We all know what has happened of late (these past many decades). Government expansion, massive bloat, waste, corruption, and of course… over-regulation and control of its citizenry.

For your interest, here is a list of all federal government agencies that I could find, and a question for you at the end…

I wonder what our forefathers would think today…


 
The following list of federal agencies is sourced from the ‘Federal Register’. Keep in mind that apparently the Federal Register only includes agencies that publish in the Federal Register; that’s any agency that engages in rule-making or posts notices to the public via the FR, which is probably most agencies, but I don’t know that it’s all of them. There are probably even more…

Scroll to the end for your question:

438 Federal Agencies

(that I could find…)
 
Administration Office, Executive Office of the President

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform

Administrative Conference of the United States
Administrative Office of United States Courts
Advocacy and Outreach Office
African Development Foundation
Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality
Agency for International Development

International Development Cooperation Agency

Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
Aging Administration
Agricultural Marketing Service
Agricultural Research Service
Agriculture Department

Advocacy and Outreach Office
Agricultural Marketing Service
Agricultural Research Service
Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service
Commodity Credit Corporation
Cooperative State Research, Education, and Extension Service
Economic Analysis Staff
Economic Research Service
Energy Policy and New Uses Office
Farm Service Agency
Federal Crop Insurance Corporation
Food and Consumer Service
Food and Nutrition Service
Food Safety and Inspection Service
Foreign Agricultural Service
Forest Service
Grain Inspection, Packers and Stockyards Administration
Inspector General Office, Agriculture Department
National Agricultural Library
National Agricultural Statistics Service
National Institute of Food and Agriculture
Natural Resources Conservation Service
Operations Office
Procurement and Property Management, Office of
Risk Management Agency
Rural Business-Cooperative Service
Rural Housing and Community Development Service
Rural Housing Service
Rural Telephone Bank
Rural Utilities Service
Transportation Office

Air Force Department
Air Quality National Commission
Air Transportation Stabilization Board
Alaska Power Administration
Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Bureau
American Battle Monuments Commission
Amtrak Reform Council
Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service
Antitrust Division
Antitrust Modernization Commission
Appalachian Regional Commission
Appalachian States Low-Level Radioactive Waste Commission
Architect of the Capitol
Architectural and Transportation Barriers Compliance Board
Arctic Research Commission
Armed Forces Retirement Home
Arms Control and Disarmament Agency
Army Department
Assassination Records Review Board
Barry M. Goldwater Scholarship and Excellence in Education Foundation
Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform
Board of Directors of the Hope for Homeowners Program
Bonneville Power Administration
Broadcasting Board of Governors
Bureau of the Fiscal Service
Census Bureau
Census Monitoring Board
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
Central Intelligence Agency
Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board
Child Support Enforcement Office
Children and Families Administration
Christopher Columbus Quincentenary Jubilee Commission
Civil Rights Commission
Coast Guard
Commerce Department

Census Bureau
Economic Analysis Bureau
Economic Development Administration
Economics and Statistics Administration
Export Administration Bureau
Foreign-Trade Zones Board
Industry and Security Bureau
International Trade Administration
Minority Business Development Agency
National Institute of Standards and Technology
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Shipping Authority
National Technical Information Service
National Telecommunications and Information Administration
Patent and Trademark Office
Technology Administration
Travel and Tourism Administration

Commercial Space Transportation Office
Commission of Fine Arts
Commission on Immigration Reform
Commission on Protecting and Reducing Government Secrecy
Commission on Review of Overseas Military Facility Structure of the United States
Commission on Structural Alternatives for the Federal Courts of Appeals
Commission on the Advancement of Federal Law Enforcement
Commission on the Bicentennial of the United States Constitution
Commission on the Future of the United States Aerospace Industry
Commission on the Social Security Notch Issue
Committee for Purchase From People Who Are Blind or Severely Disabled
Committee for the Implementation of Textile Agreements
Commodity Credit Corporation
Commodity Futures Trading Commission
Community Development Financial Institutions Fund
Community Living Administration
Competitiveness Policy Council
Comptroller of the Currency
Congressional Budget Office
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Consumer Product Safety Commission
Cooperative State Research, Education, and Extension Service
Coordinating Council on Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention
Copyright Office, Library of Congress
Copyright Royalty Board
Copyright Royalty Judges, Library of Congress
Corporation for National and Community Service
Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency
Council on Environmental Quality
Counsel to the President
Court Services and Offender Supervision Agency for the District of Columbia
Crime and Security in U.S. Seaports, Interagency Commission
Customs Service
Defense Acquisition Regulations System
Defense Base Closure and Realignment Commission
Defense Contract Audit Agency
Defense Criminal Investigative Service
Defense Department

Air Force Department
Army Department
Defense Acquisition Regulations System
Defense Contract Audit Agency
Defense Criminal Investigative Service
Defense Information Systems Agency
Defense Intelligence Agency
Defense Investigative Service
Defense Logistics Agency
Defense Mapping Agency
Defense Special Weapons Agency
Engineers Corps
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
National Security Agency/Central Security Service
Navy Department
Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences

Defense Information Systems Agency
Defense Intelligence Agency
Defense Investigative Service
Defense Logistics Agency
Defense Mapping Agency
Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board
Defense Special Weapons Agency
Delaware River Basin Commission
Denali Commission
Disability Employment Policy Office
Drug Enforcement Administration
Economic Analysis Bureau
Economic Analysis Staff
Economic Development Administration
Economic Research Service
Economics and Statistics Administration
Education Department
Election Assistance Commission
Electronic Commerce Advisory Commission
Emergency Oil and Gas Guaranteed Loan Board
Emergency Steel Guarantee Loan Board
Employee Benefits Security Administration
Employees Compensation Appeals Board
Employment and Training Administration
Employment Standards Administration
Energy Department

Alaska Power Administration
Bonneville Power Administration
Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Office
Energy Information Administration
Energy Research Office
Environment Office, Energy Department
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
Hearings and Appeals Office, Energy Department
Minority Economic Impact Office
National Nuclear Security Administration
Nuclear Energy Office
Southeastern Power Administration
Southwestern Power Administration
Western Area Power Administration

Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Office
Energy Information Administration
Energy Policy and New Uses Office
Energy Research Office
Engineers Corps
Engraving and Printing Bureau
Environment Office, Energy Department
Environmental Protection Agency
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
Executive Council on Integrity and Efficiency
Executive Office for Immigration Review
Executive Office of the President

Administration Office, Executive Office of the President
Council on Environmental Quality
Counsel to the President

Export Administration Bureau
Export-Import Bank
Family Assistance Office
Farm Credit Administration
Farm Credit System Insurance Corporation
Farm Service Agency
Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board
Federal Acquisition Regulation System
Federal Aviation Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Federal Communications Commission
Federal Contract Compliance Programs Office
Federal Crop Insurance Corporation
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
Federal Election Commission
Federal Emergency Management Agency
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council
Federal Highway Administration
Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight Office
Federal Housing Finance Agency
Federal Housing Finance Board
Federal Labor Relations Authority

Federal Service Impasses Panel

Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
Federal Maritime Commission
Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service
Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
Federal Pay, Advisory Committee
Federal Prison Industries
Federal Procurement Policy Office
Federal Railroad Administration
Federal Register Office
Federal Register, Administrative Committee
Federal Reserve System
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board
Federal Service Impasses Panel
Federal Trade Commission
Federal Transit Administration
Financial Crimes Enforcement Network
Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
Financial Research Office
Financial Stability Oversight Council
First Responder Network Authority
Fiscal Service
Fish and Wildlife Service
Food and Consumer Service
Food and Drug Administration
Food and Nutrition Service
Food Safety and Inspection Service
Foreign Agricultural Service
Foreign Assets Control Office
Foreign Claims Settlement Commission
Foreign Service Grievance Board
Foreign Service Impasse Disputes Panel
Foreign Service Labor Relations Board
Foreign-Trade Zones Board
Forest Service
General Services Administration
Geographic Names Board
Geological Survey
Government Accountability Office
Government Ethics Office
Government National Mortgage Association
Government Publishing Office
Grain Inspection, Packers and Stockyards Administration
Gulf Coast Ecosystem Restoration Council
Harry S. Truman Scholarship Foundation
Health and Human Services Department

Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
Aging Administration
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
Child Support Enforcement Office
Children and Families Administration
Community Living Administration
Family Assistance Office
Food and Drug Administration
Health Care Finance Administration
Health Resources and Services Administration
Indian Health Service
Inspector General Office, Health and Human Services Department
National Institutes of Health
National Library of Medicine
Program Support Center
Public Health Service
Refugee Resettlement Office
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration

Health Care Finance Administration
Health Resources and Services Administration
Hearings and Appeals Office, Energy Department
Hearings and Appeals Office, Interior Department
Historic Preservation, Advisory Council
Homeland Security Department

Coast Guard
Federal Emergency Management Agency
Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
National Communications System
Secret Service
Transportation Security Administration
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement

Housing and Urban Development Department

Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight Office
Government National Mortgage Association

Immigration and Naturalization Service
Indian Affairs Bureau
Indian Arts and Crafts Board
Indian Health Service
Indian Trust Transition Office
Industry and Security Bureau
Information Security Oversight Office
Inspector General Office, Agriculture Department
Inspector General Office, Health and Human Services Department
Institute of American Indian and Alaska Native Culture and Arts Development
Institute of Museum and Library Services
Inter-American Foundation
Interagency Floodplain Management Review Committee
Intergovernmental Relations Advisory Commission
Interior Department

Fish and Wildlife Service
Geological Survey
Hearings and Appeals Office, Interior Department
Indian Affairs Bureau
Indian Trust Transition Office
Land Management Bureau
Minerals Management Service
Mines Bureau
National Biological Service
National Civilian Community Corps
National Indian Gaming Commission
National Park Service
Natural Resources Revenue Office
Ocean Energy Management Bureau
Ocean Energy Management, Regulation, and Enforcement Bureau
Reclamation Bureau
Safety and Environmental Enforcement Bureau
Special Trustee for American Indians Office
Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement Office

Internal Revenue Service
International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico
International Broadcasting Board
International Development Cooperation Agency
International Investment Office
International Joint Commission-United States and Canada
International Organizations Employees Loyalty Board
International Trade Administration
International Trade Commission
Interstate Commerce Commission
James Madison Memorial Fellowship Foundation
Japan-United States Friendship Commission
Joint Board for Enrollment of Actuaries
Judicial Conference of the United States
Judicial Review Commission on Foreign Asset Control
Justice Department

Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Bureau
Antitrust Division
Drug Enforcement Administration
Executive Office for Immigration Review
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Federal Prison Industries
Foreign Claims Settlement Commission
Immigration and Naturalization Service
Justice Programs Office
Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Office
National Institute of Corrections
National Institute of Justice
Parole Commission
Prisons Bureau
United States Marshals Service

Justice Programs Office

Victims of Crime Office

Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Office
Labor Department

Disability Employment Policy Office
Employee Benefits Security Administration
Employees Compensation Appeals Board
Employment and Training Administration
Employment Standards Administration
Federal Contract Compliance Programs Office
Labor Statistics Bureau
Labor-Management Standards Office
Mine Safety and Health Administration
Occupational Safety and Health Administration
Pension and Welfare Benefits Administration
Veterans Employment and Training Service
Wage and Hour Division
Workers Compensation Programs Office

Labor Statistics Bureau
Labor-Management Standards Office
Land Management Bureau
Legal Services Corporation
Library of Congress

Copyright Office, Library of Congress
Copyright Royalty Board

Local Television Loan Guarantee Board
Management and Budget Office

Federal Procurement Policy Office

Marine Mammal Commission
Maritime Administration
Medicare Payment Advisory Commission
Merit Systems Protection Board
Military Compensation and Retirement Modernization Commission
Millennium Challenge Corporation
Mine Safety and Health Administration
Minerals Management Service
Mines Bureau
Minority Business Development Agency
Minority Economic Impact Office
Mississippi River Commission
Monetary Offices
Morris K. Udall and Stewart L. Udall Foundation
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
National Agricultural Library
National Agricultural Statistics Service
National Archives and Records Administration

Federal Register Office
Information Security Oversight Office
National Historical Publications and Records Commission

National Bankruptcy Review Commission
National Biological Service
National Bipartisan Commission on Future of Medicare
National Capital Planning Commission
National Civilian Community Corps
National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform
National Commission on Intermodal Transportation
National Commission on Libraries and Information Science
National Commission on Manufactured Housing
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
National Commission on the Cost of Higher Education
National Communications System
National Consumer Cooperative Bank
National Council on Disability
National Counterintelligence Center
National Credit Union Administration
National Crime Prevention and Privacy Compact Council
National Economic Council
National Education Goals Panel
National Endowment for the Arts
National Endowment for the Humanities
National Foundation on the Arts and the Humanities

Institute of Museum and Library Services
National Endowment for the Arts
National Endowment for the Humanities

National Gambling Impact Study Commission
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
National Historical Publications and Records Commission
National Indian Gaming Commission
National Institute for Literacy
National Institute of Corrections
National Institute of Food and Agriculture
National Institute of Justice
National Institute of Standards and Technology
National Institutes of Health
National Intelligence, Office of the National Director
National Labor Relations Board
National Library of Medicine
National Mediation Board
National Nanotechnology Coordination Office
National Nuclear Security Administration
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Park Service
National Partnership for Reinventing Government
National Prison Rape Elimination Commission
National Railroad Passenger Corporation
National Science Foundation
National Security Agency/Central Security Service
National Security Council
National Shipping Authority
National Skill Standards Board
National Technical Information Service
National Telecommunications and Information Administration

First Responder Network Authority

National Transportation Safety Board
National Women’s Business Council
Natural Resources Conservation Service
Natural Resources Revenue Office
Navajo and Hopi Indian Relocation Office
Navy Department
Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation
Northeast Dairy Compact Commission
Northeast Interstate Low-Level Radioactive Waste Commission
Nuclear Energy Office
Nuclear Regulatory Commission
Nuclear Waste Technical Review Board
Occupational Safety and Health Administration
Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission
Ocean Energy Management Bureau
Ocean Energy Management, Regulation, and Enforcement Bureau
Ocean Policy Commission
Office of Motor Carrier Safety
Office of National Drug Control Policy
Office of Policy Development
Oklahoma City National Memorial Trust
Operations Office
Ounce of Prevention Council
Overseas Private Investment Corporation
Pacific Northwest Electric Power and Conservation Planning Council
Panama Canal Commission
Parole Commission
Patent and Trademark Office
Peace Corps
Pension and Welfare Benefits Administration
Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation
Personnel Management Office
Physician Payment Review Commission
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
Postal Rate Commission
Postal Regulatory Commission
Postal Service
President’s Council on Integrity and Efficiency
President’s Council on Sustainable Development
President’s Critical Infrastructure Protection Board
President’s Economic Policy Advisory Board
Presidential Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans’ Illnesses
Presidential Commission on Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces
Presidential Documents
Presidio Trust
Prisons Bureau
Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board
Procurement and Property Management, Office of
Program Support Center
Prospective Payment Assessment Commission
Public Debt Bureau
Public Health Service
Railroad Retirement Board
Reagan-Udall Foundation for the Food and Drug Administration
Reclamation Bureau
Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board
Refugee Resettlement Office
Regulatory Information Service Center
Research and Innovative Technology Administration
Research and Special Programs Administration
Resolution Trust Corporation
Risk Management Agency
Rural Business-Cooperative Service
Rural Housing and Community Development Service
Rural Housing Service
Rural Telephone Bank
Rural Utilities Service
Safety and Environmental Enforcement Bureau
Saint Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation
Science and Technology Policy Office
Secret Service
Securities and Exchange Commission
Selective Service System
Small Business Administration
Smithsonian Institution
Social Security Administration
Southeastern Power Administration
Southwestern Power Administration
Special Counsel Office
Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction
Special Inspector General For Iraq Reconstruction
Special Trustee for American Indians Office
State Department
State Justice Institute
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration
Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement Office
Surface Transportation Board
Susquehanna River Basin Commission
Technology Administration
Tennessee Valley Authority
The White House Office
Thrift Depositor Protection Oversight Board
Thrift Supervision Office
Trade and Development Agency
Trade Representative, Office of United States
Transportation Department

Commercial Space Transportation Office
Federal Aviation Administration
Federal Highway Administration
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
Federal Railroad Administration
Federal Transit Administration
Maritime Administration
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Office of Motor Carrier Safety
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
Research and Innovative Technology Administration
Research and Special Programs Administration
Saint Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation
Surface Transportation Board
Transportation Statistics Bureau

Transportation Office
Transportation Security Administration
Transportation Statistics Bureau
Travel and Tourism Administration
Treasury Department

Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau
Bureau of the Fiscal Service
Community Development Financial Institutions Fund
Comptroller of the Currency
Customs Service
Engraving and Printing Bureau
Financial Crimes Enforcement Network
Financial Research Office
Fiscal Service
Foreign Assets Control Office
Internal Revenue Service
International Investment Office
Monetary Offices
Public Debt Bureau
Thrift Supervision Office
United States Mint

Twenty-First Century Workforce Commission
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
U.S. House of Representatives
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
U.S. Trade Deficit Review Commission
U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission
Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences
United States Enrichment Corporation
United States Information Agency
United States Institute of Peace
United States Marshals Service
United States Mint
United States Sentencing Commission
Utah Reclamation Mitigation and Conservation Commission
Valles Caldera Trust
Veterans Affairs Department
Veterans Employment and Training Service
Victims of Crime Office
Wage and Hour Division
Western Area Power Administration
Women’s Business Enterprise Interagency Committee
Women’s Progress Commemoration Commission
Workers Compensation Programs Office

 
source: federalregister.gov/agencies

 
What I have not captured here are the number of federal government employees and the corresponding amount of money that these 438 government agencies are ‘really’ costing costing you and I (rather than the ‘padded’ .gov numbers).

I began to search for substantiated data for a true and real number of all federal government employees, but what I discovered was that apparently the government ‘hides’ A LOT of this (real) information through the practice of not clearly (or at all) detailing the statistics for number of part time employees, part time hours worked, sub contractors (which is apparently a HUGE category), civilians who in some way work for the government, and more. It is an extremely vague but apparently enormous pool of LOTS and LOTS of people.

With that said, what is your opinion about the sheer number of federal agencies, the growth of federal government, and how far we have come (the scope of government) since the Constitution was drafted?

 
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself.”
-John Adams

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I’d say we no longer need the Commission on the Social Security Notch Issue. Notch babies were born between 1917 and 1921; most of them are dead now. In any case, they decided decades and decades ago not to resolve the inequity.

My guess is we could do without most of the agencies. We might start with
Christopher Columbus Quincentenary Jubilee Commission
Or the Education Department
Or the Internal Revenue Service

Seems we could get rid of these:
Emergency Oil and Gas Guarantee Loan Board
Emergency Steel Guarantee Loan Board
Foreign Agricultural Service
Foreign Assets Control Office
Foreign Claims Settlement Commission
Foreign Service Grievance Board
Foreign Service Impasse Disputes Panel
Foreign Service Labor Relations Board

What do all those guys do, anyway?

Do we need both a International Trade Administration and an International Trade Commission?

Or do we need both an Occupational Safety and Health Administration and a Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission?

What about the Ocean Energy Management Bureau; the Ocean Energy Management, Regulation, and Enforcement Bureau; and the Ocean Policy Commission?

We might as well get rid of the Government Ethics Office, since they don’t seem to be doing their job.

The Government Ethics board is corrupt, and won’t go away.

That’s how the likes of ‘Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and most importantly Charlie Rangel’ are not indicted and in ‘Jail’.

If I miss a single dollar on my income tax return,,, they descend on me like stink on ‘SH1T’.

The new ‘America’,,, the plan is to punish us for events which happened way,, way,,, way,,, way long before we we’re ever born.

And get this,,, a lot of us have an ancestry which doesn’t consist of ‘Slave Owning’ societies.

Not to worry,,,,, “YOUR WHITE”. Live with the guilt!

WELL SAID … It is a subterfuge to say the least … You have a lot figured out here. I think the corruption in the de facto “Government” is beyond the comprehension of most Americans, which is a shame. If it were a truly de juris Government we would have far fewer worries and unfortunate scenarios looming ahead in our future.

The sheer amount of waste, fraud and financial abuse that occurs within the Federal “System” eclipses anything all of the combined narcotrafficante cartels south of the border could dream up. If we eliminated those three alone, we could pay off a substantial amount of the debt now incurred. If we eliminated the palatial perks of our Senators and Congress representatives and their respective majority leaders we also could reduce the debt. However, the latter two groups of political prostitutes would never consent to the the taxpayers actually have financial control of THEIR destiny. Yet, somehow they feel completely justified in financially sodomizing we taxpayers.

You are quite right with the rights they feel they have, in ‘sodomizing’ as you mentioned the taxpayers. Unfortunately they have hit upon the usual mentality that strikes many out there when confronted with the use of another’s money or wealth. When it is not their own: “It is thusly time to party hearty” and in that regard; those in power are the self-admitted ‘experts’ in their respective fields!!

Yes, I’m still here. Amazing that I have an opportunity to respond first. Normally I hit this site after work while the laptop is still up. But,,,

I’m still a bit blown away by the devastation caused by the very overseers put in place by those that are un-elected.

400 plus agencies, all of course looking out for our welfare is a ‘Leftist’ scam.

I hate to simplify this but:

Franklin D. Roosevelt (a leftist Icon) even warned against the unionizing government employees.

OK. There has been a massive shift in ‘Funding’ efforts by the ‘Leftists’. Used to be they relied on ‘Unions’ to fund their political efforts.

It was a Money Laundering scheme,,,,, Government pays it’s employees (with our money),,, workers pay their ‘Unions’ dues,,, and the ‘Unions’ pay,,,, sorry donate to the ‘Leftists’. The Mob used to have this scam, but the Democrats (Robert Kennedy) took them down,,, and benefit as a result.

The Democrat party is the ‘Mob’.

It has become way more insidious now,,,,

Due to Government intrusion into the private sector via ‘Regulation’,,, the engine which made our country great is now capitulating with the professional parasites.

It’s a fact,,,,,, read ‘Atlas Shrugged’. Like the book ‘1984’ it was history way before it’s time.

The ‘Leftists’ would have you believe the ‘Rich’ are all ‘Right Wing Extremists’ which take pleasure in living off the backs of the ‘Poor’.

Not True,,,, the fact is most capitalists in this country are desperately trying to avoid the ‘Wrath’ of a ‘Leftist Government’ and trying to stay afloat for their share holders.

For those of you that can’t follow this,,,, they’re trying to get ‘small’ (out of view), and when looked at,,,, get a good grade for supporting the cause.

That’s why the unions have been crying foul,,,, lately.

Less membership,,, equals,,,, less money for the ‘Communist’,,, oops,,, sorry ‘Democrat’ party.

The ‘leftists’ have our economy by the balls,,,, and they are not going to let go,

The massive amount of agencies are a means to an end.

They’ve got nothing to do with the good of the people.

WAKE UP America !!!!

@ Sober
I’m a Conservative, so the following comment is not a Liberal Bias.
I will agree with you 99.99% of what your saying here, but I could just as easily insert “Republican” into the same argument. I see little or no differences in the “current” republican baseline as the liberal/democratic party. I truly believe the congress is totally controlled by the King, as is the court system.

I agree “wake up America” the people have lost.
NRP

NRP –

The GOP is worthless, and the leadership is corrupt. They are also beholding to their donors and could care less about their base.

The 80 year onslaught which is taking us down is a very patient (until recently) well thought out attack on the ‘Constitution’.

This latest acceleration wrought on our ‘Founding Documents’ does lay at the feet of the GOP.

Not because they perpetrated the assault, but because they failed to use the power of the purse to stop it.

So,,,, ultimately you are correct. We are basically ‘Ruled’ by a single political party.

The use of the word “democratic” in naming -or- describing the Democrat Party is just plain wrong. There is nothing democratic about the Democrat Party. Thank you.
Prepare for the coming S__t storm:
Clean water
Food
Alternative energy and storage
Operational security (OpSec)
Gold and silver
Security support teams and organization…because when it hits the fan, the only people you can count on is in your local neighborhood, town and local police/sheriff. Not any government organizations–these cannot be relied upon.
Thank you.

Ben Franklin would say, “Looks like you couldn’t keep that republic, ma’am.”

Love the name and comment! Great book and words. Go Redoubt!

If you like your Republic, you can keep your Republic, Period….. Hahahhahhhahahha.

Now let me think. How bad was it with king George? I am thinking could be worse here now. I know in this county it is $200 for a driveway permit then you have to pay another $200 for a road access permit. All government is getting pretty nuts.

tooooooo many no wonder every things a disaster.

Yes. How else can you hide the massive expenditures for welfare?

Probably can pay off the national debt by getting rid of a few of those.

California has got them beat.

http://www.ca.gov/Apps/Agencies.aspx

If we were able to truly and honestly quantify the magnitude of all Federal, State, and Local government agencies, employees, costs, benefits, along with all associated subcontractors (hidden or otherwise), etc.., I’ll bet it would be quite an amazing and stunning quantification. I truly wonder how much bigger the private sector really is than all government these days (even though the private sector is paying for all of it, albeit through massive debt).

@Ken
I heard an unofficial number just yesterday from a semi-upper Gov. Auditor.
The “Government” with all of it’s sub/sub-sub/and so on is approximately 1/3 of the total work base, with the remaining 2/3 private.
NRP

I have said for decades that the government is a welfare program for those who are willing to work but in all probability not find an equal-paying job in the private sector.

Anyone who has worked for the government (or worked as a contractor) knows how inept and/or red-tape-driven most of the employees are.

Ha, thanks for the long list. This is a fraction. What’s more, it costs a lot to keep a government employee for life so now, more often than not, there is a contractor or two that is paid even better to do the actual work that the government signs off on.

But do not fall in to the easy trap that blames it on the other guy; thus, I continue to use the word US in the debate. It is not left or right it is man. Capitalism is the best system going but it is driven by greed.

Scream and holler, but Atlas Shrugged and 1984 are not even relatable. Dagny, Hank and Ragnar know what you need more than you do yourself. Orwell, conversely, uses Big Brother metaphorically to question those things that try to conquer the human spirit.

John Galt makes the sign of the dollar.
My family makes the sign of the fish.

I see the Fish and the Dollar as one in the same. Dagny and Hank were the people in those stories, who would be the ones to fight the powers who would make everyone to believe that they, “know what you need more than you do yourself.”

They were not greedy. They wanted to achieve what they could, to their best, without the greedy interest and influence of politicians.

Real, original American capitalism, protected and even hindered by the rule/law of the people (Constitutional republic which we are supposed to be blessed with) should provide the fisherman or the businessman with limitless opportunities. Once one or the other gains, or causes the establishment to give the other a disadvantage through cronyism, the republic fails.

I wish I were a successful fisherman. I can never have this with the widespread cronyism. It’s purely a dream in this day and age.

I see the Fish and the Dollar as one in the same.
~John Galt

I think I understand what you meant. But Ayn Rand meant what you wrote literally, and this is why John makes the sign of the dollar on the last page of the book. Ayn Rand never mentions God except to imply that it is you. Symbols are important. By fish, I meant Ichthys.

I think it is only a matter of time before people start to check out. I know my wife and I are always thinking of ways we can “starve the beast”. Its sad that we live in America and the incentive is to make as little money as possible so as not to have the government take it from you.

Also great book, scary, but a good read.

Maybe all those agencies are just the governments way of dealing with unemployment. When unemployment gets too high they just create a new agency and stock it full of employees whether they actually have any use or not. Eventually you end up with hundreds of agencies, thousands if you start counting state and county agencies. Imagine if we did close all those agencies. As romantic as that sounds, imagine all those millions of people out of work. Then imagine all the private sector companies that would have to close because no one has money to buy their junk.

I agree with Ken that government has gotten too big and out of control, but there’s an old saying, be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

Here’s another thought. While I agree that the size of government is way too big and needs to get whittled down, they also serve a purpose that the private sector can’t seem to solve. Unemployment for example. The federal government is and has been the largest employer for many many years. Why? Because the private sector isn’t efficient enough at creating jobs to keep up with population growth. Most likely that has something to do with education though. Too few people consider getting out of school and starting a business. Most (almost all) only concern themselves with what kind of job they’re going to get when they get out of school. Government, as nasty as they are, are just trying to fill the void. The 99% are complaining about the 1%. Well think about all the unemployed right now, not just the official numbers but all of them. All it would take is for 1% of those unemployed to start businesses and they could hire the other 99% or close to it. At least get the number taken down a whole bunch. But then there is the catch 22 in that fantasy, those 1% have possibly already tried something like that and been slapped in the face by our bloated bureaucracy. Ok ok I know the 1% doesn’t employ 99%, maybe closer to 50%, but hey if 1% of the unemployed were able to do that then we’d at least cut unemployment by half.

So the one agency I would cut would be the one that signs and gives out business licenses. Get government out of the way so people can do what they need to do.

I have to politely Disagree with your argument. I think that simply because an agency CAN employ people doesn’t mean the Agency should exist.

I also have to disagree with your assertion that “Because the private sector isn’t efficient enough at creating jobs to keep up with population growth”

I believe that #1- if the Federal government would get OUT OF THE WAY (in terms of repetitive and ridiculous regulation) That so many more businesses would thrive and many more jobs would be created. Government itself, by it’s very nature, is restrictive and squashes far more jobs than it creates

and #2- if the Federal government disbanded the agencies that the states could handle it would create more jobs a local/State levels. My example is Departments of Education- the Federal one should be simply disbanded (states have their own) and the savings from that should be given back to the states. That way the PEOPLE of that particular state can best expand their department of Ed. and decide what curriculum’s to follow for the PEOPLE of that state.

The Political appointees in D.C should not tell the people of Texas or Nevada or any other states what is in the best interest of their own citizens…. We saw this in the “Bundy ranch” ordeal a few months back. Politicians in DC trying to tell the citizens of a state HOw to use their own land and what to do with it. Overstepping the Federal Gov’s boundaries

@Spud
I believe that #1- if the Federal government would get OUT OF THE WAY (in terms of repetitive and ridiculous regulation) That so many more businesses would thrive and many more jobs would be created. Government itself, by it’s very nature, is restrictive and squashes far more jobs than it creates

My last sentence basically the same thing, so of course I agree with you.

The only power a bureaucrat has is to slow or stop. They don’t create. They don’t produce. They certainly don’t help. They man the roadblocks and hold the hoops. Lawmaking, as in legislation, is reactionary. Laws may seem like a good idea at the time of reaction. Later as the regulations come into practice the unintended consequences show their dirty little heads and the bad legislation piles up like poo in the bottom of an outhouse.

That said, behind the scenes, the shadow government, (lobbyists and corporations), conspire to tweak the legitimate system to their unfair advantage. As society becomes more complex the wheels tend to fall off. Obama, Bush, Clinton, all bought and paid for as are congress and the players in the batters box getting ready for 2016. No matter who wins the election the people lose. No matter what is said about leftist scum or democrat commys they are all self serving republicrats and democans. The political air itself is contaminated.

Politicians, bureaucrats, fall to the lowest common denominator like bricks. As long as we focus on party politics we are barking up the wrong tree while the possum is laughing a few trees over. The flooding has advanced to the stage that the ship can no longer float. The passengers drink cocktails and watch the game, as the rats jump ship they fill their pockets with gold. Both are doomed.

ken did you get a hand cramp while typing this.
truly what a waste of our money, being used to fund all these agencies.

Isn’t it ridiculous? The bureaucracy never grows smaller, it grows bigger. It is the nature of the beast.

When you really think about it, it is interesting to note the very basic core difference between this huge entity and private business. For the most part, the agencies do not have to make money – as in make a profit. Their motives are entirely different and I’m sure the mindset (generally) is quite different.

While OF COURSE we need BASIC federal government to fulfill its role as was originally intended, the problem is that there’s no one to stop them – or should I say no one with the will or ability to stop them from having blown up into the world’s biggest Zeppelin that they are today… I suppose that we get the government that we deserve…

I’ll speculate that much of ‘it’ (the balloon of alphabet agencies) is about ‘make work’ projects, reasons to exist (hence the tendency to regulate and control more, more more), to find something that doesn’t need fixing and ‘fix it’, etc… But now I’m sure that I’ve upset some of you who work for ‘.gov’. Bear in mind that this is an opinion regarding the 30-thousand foot general view of things.

yes it is a point of view.
i agree we need a federal govt, but the way it was intended to be run has been lost.
it was meant to be run by the people. it was meant to protect the people..
what it stands for now is everything opposite of its design.
i see much darker days ahead and worry for the safety of my family and friends
and i do as much as i can to prepare for the times to come.
sure is a lot in the news today, that is if you catch it quick enough.

The only power a bureaucrat has is to slow or stop. They don’t create. They don’t produce. They certainly don’t help. They man the roadblocks and hold the hoops. Lawmaking, as in legislation, is reactionary. Laws may seem like a good idea at the time of reaction. Later as the regulations come into practice the unintended consequences show their dirty little heads and the bad legislation piles up like poo in the bottom of an outhouse.

That said, behind the scenes, the shadow government, (lobbyists and corporations), conspire to tweak the legitimate system to their unfair advantage. As society becomes more complex the wheels tend to fall off. Obama, Bush, Clinton, all bought and paid for as are congress and the players in the batters box getting ready for 2016. No matter who wins the election the people lose. No matter what is said about leftist scum or democrat commys they are all self serving republicrats and democans. The political air itself is contaminated.

Politicians, bureaucrats, fall to the lowest common denominator like bricks. As long as we focus on party politics we are barking up the wrong tree while the possum is laughing a few trees over. The flooding has advanced to the stage that the ship can no longer float. The passengers drink cocktails and watch the game, as the rats jump ship they fill their pockets with gold. Both are doomed.

“if you like your agency, you can keep your agency, Period.”…Hahahahaha.
Seriously, This is a hell of alot more than even I had ever heard of. Disband them all and start over. Anything the states can do for themselves should not be allowed to be repeated at the federal level. Oh wait, that’s what the 10th amendment says!!!

Wow that is a longggggg list!

I have a wonderful talk with my 93 year old mother last night about a lot of different things as you could imagine. Everything from King Obama (she does not “care” for him so much, you can imagine what she calls him 🙂 ) to the Animas disaster and even prepping.

One thing she said that will stick in my mind for a long time….

“Neal, just remember, just like a bad case of gas, this too will pass sooner or later”.

She has seen it all my friends, and at 93 she is still smarter than I ever will be. Her question is to me was, Where did all the “honest” people go? Where did all the “smart” people go, Where did all the “good” people go?
Sadly I could not answer her. I could tell her she is all of them, and asked her to run for congress….. You can imagine how well that went over….. HAHAHAHA
NRP

And how are those on the list funded?

See: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-25/list-97-taxes-americans-pay-every-year

The more independent we are, the less taxes we pay.
The less taxes we pay, the more taxes the politicians come up with.

The less we use a service, the more the rates for that service increase.
If we don’t use that service, they tax us for something else to pay for the
one we’re not using.

Sounds to me like we can’t win for loosing. (I’ve heard that before somewhere.)

No doubt at a specific time, basically when some of these agencies were formed, there was a need, but as our world changes and technology, I have no doubt many of these agency are no longer needed. In addition, the responsibilities of one agency could easily be handled by another. Nevertheless, we also have to realize that theses agencies also mean jobs. We have to be willing to accept that if many of these agencies were downsized, combined, or eliminated it would also translate into the lost of jobs. I am in favor of small and limit Federal government, also also larger and more effective State governments. Not only do the Federal government has all these agencies, but even individual States have similar agencies at the State level that do the work and serve the same purpose as those Federal agencies do.